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It already is. Lemmy.world is not on there.

No

I’m just telling how it works now. I don’t control the fediverse.

The votes are visible if you go to lemvotes.org.

And on communities you specifically moderate.

Public votes long term engender a high-trust culture when it comes to voting behaviour. The original purpose of downvoting on sites like Reddit were that they were designed to downvote spam, abuse, off-topic content etc. Not just a disagreement button. It’s the same principle behind public moderator logs and public user posting history.

It also gives community moderators the ability to observe hostile voting behaviour and ban people for spam downvoting.

EDIT. I misread: Oh, they are public. You can go onto lemvotes.org and community moderators can see voting behaviour on their communities.

I mean, I literally am here - and any local instance policies are designed, or going to be designed to be transparent - and there’s no shadow-banning policy (and the ban system is being overhauled anyway)

Piefed is as decentralised as Lemmy.

piefed shadow bans to shape narratives like reddit does, but it’s next level that makes you unaware that you and your opinions have been shadow banned.

I am literally an admin on piefed.social. What shadowbans are you referring to?

Moreover, instance on piefed have their own policies - just like on lemmy. A badly behaved instance can be cut-off and isolated by the wider userbases.

Yes I’m aware the design of the fediverse makes things public. You’ve made that point.

Sorry, let me amend. Whether or not all of these things have to remain publicly visible based on ActivityPub, I don’t know - I’m just saying that I think its overall a good thing.

I think hiding your profile is worth the moderation trouble. Users report individual posts, they’re very rarely going through a person’s profile.

I don’t. And sometimes users identify patterns of behaviour, and as my example illustrated, sometimes you need wider context to evaluate whether or not a post is deceptive.

Mods banning based on activity in other places also leads to the opposite problem. Some subreddits do it and basically everyone hates it.

Those are usually done by autoban bots, which I very much oppose (and I don’t know if they could be blocked on the fediverse - but I am sure many instance owners would take a dim view of it, and suspect that the fact that the fediverse is a federated structure makes many community owners that might use them much less inclined to do so).

And that can still happen anyway on Reddit even with profile concealment if those bots scrape specific subreddits for activity, rather than profiles.

Admins would still be able to see it. Mods can maybe see for their comm.

Admins seeing it isn’t enough. A lot of the time admins and community mods rely on reports of user conduct, where people observe patterns and forward it on.

Moderators also sometimes need to see those wider patterns of behaviour. An example here could be a music self-promoter sharing their song in a music community that does not allow self-promotion. If a moderator could only see posts by that user within communities they moderate, they wouldn’t know if they’re disingenuously self-promoting - in violation of the communities rules.

This is the same argument used against all privacy. The EU wants to kill end to end encryption so they can catch bad actors. No thank you, I’d rather my messages were private and so was my lemmy profile.

I don’t think governments, or all applications should be forced to be public so state entities can go through everything. I’m just saying that the public presence of all content is foundational to the concept of the Fediverse specifically and having it remain as a high-trust instance (or collection of instances). This isn’t Facebook. This isn’t a Discord chatroom. Or a WhatsApp chat. Private voting, private modlogs and private profiles long-term corrode trust in communities like reddit and lead to long-term damaging trends that degrade the quality of content.

I don’t think any of this should be private. Allowing users to hide their profile creates conditions beneficial for astroturfing and for bots and trolls to obscure their history.

Sorry, so you don’t object to post history being public on the fediverse - but simply want it said plainly that “Post history is not private” directly to users?

I meant searching within subreddits (communities) - using it to find new relevant communities. Piefeds community browser is great for this, allowing filtering by activity, combined with the feed system.

Why is Piefed like reddit, but Lemmy isn’t?

Do you mean can feeds combine communities from different instances? My assumption would be yes.

On Piefed you can follow specific users and get notifications for when they do posts.

Not comments though. Although that seems a bit… obsessive if that is what you might want.

I already made a massive !forumverse@piefed.social for this. You will have to be on a piefed instance to access it.

Piefed has hashtags, which is close to what OP wants.

Yeah, but one usually dominates because it often has the most intuitive url. And also Reddit has a much larger audience, so many very similar communities can exist for one topic.

This aren’t even the OPs original thoughts, they have either looked up other grievances or just copy and pasted this from some other old post. Most of the comments are old news too.

They don’t really seem interested in discussing this

Sorry, but no private profiles please. This isn’t Facebook. Its a public forum. Allowing users to hide their history just encourages trolling, astroturfing and erodes the high trust culture of the fediverse.

This is also why I suppose public voting, and public modlogs.

Reddit is notably degraded due to them allowing users to hide their post history now.

Duplicate communities existing is both good and bad. It means that badly run communities can be redesigned and overtaken on other instances if enough users are angry with how its run. Although, yes, duplication is an issue. Piefed feeds and crossposting mitigates this somewhat.

The search on fediverse isn’t perfect, but its far better than Reddits useless search tools. I will hear no lectures here.