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  • o_o@programming.devtoLemmy@lemmy.mlProof that bots are manipulating content
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    3 years ago

    Honestly, I’m interested to see how the federation handles this problem. Thank you for all the attention you’re bringing to it.

    My fear is that we might overcorrect by becoming too defederation-happy, which is a fear it seems that you share. However I disagree with your assertion that the federation model is more risky than conventional Reddit-like models. Instance owners have just as many tools (more, in fact) as Reddit does to combat bots on their instance. Plus we have the nuke-from-orbit defederation option.

    Since it seems like most of these bots are coming from established instances (rather than spoofing their own), I agree with you that the right approach seems to be for instance mods to maintain stricter signups (captcha, email verification, application, or other original methods). My hope is that federation will naturally lead to a “survival of the fittest” where more bot-ridden instances will copy the methods of the less bot-ridden instances.

    I think an instance should only consider defederation if it’s already being plagued by bot interference from a particular instance. I don’t think defederation should be a pre-emptive action.



  • Agreed from a technical standpoint.

    But the implications are still interesting. One might (big might) trust Reddit as an organization not to use this data for evil, but with federation, there’s nothing stopping an instance from simply releasing all users’ voting history to be public.

    Of course, my instance didn’t even ask for an email to sign up, so my entire account is anonymous that way.

    I wonder if there are technical ways to federate votes anonymously?